I just found this site, and I had to register to say lmao in agreement.
Not all of science is being able to produce phenomena at will, it is more a matter of being able to consistently get data off a phenomena. In a lab one is able to control events, but there are sciences that are in the field too. Sometimes the scientist has to wait for phenomena to happen, and hope that it happens in such a way that they can get useful data off it. The study of weather and earthquakes are great examples of this. Scientists can make models, but they can't produce it at will in the natural environment, where all the best information is collected.
And duh, of course using instruments that can record data is smart, especially because this is an evolving field. Why wouldn't one use devices that can record light, sound, temperature, and various frequencies/energies/fields? That is what we have been experiencing forever with our human senses, we just can't dip into our brains for a recorded playback to study (yet

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And as far as the air statement goes, that is just ignorant. I guess by that logic gravity doesn't exist either.
In my opinion, statements made in the interview sort of bolster the view that paranormal things are for the ignorant and superstitious, and not something that is real, real enough to warrant a serious notion of scientific or technological exploration.
Sorry, that was a rant for my first message on the board, but it felt good

Gonna go introduce myself now, lol
cheers
